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Pterodactyl-Cape's avatar

General Caine has already overseen plenty of war crimes:

1) murdering boat strike survivors clinging to wreckage

2) murdering civilians on boats without even boarding them

3) deliberate strike of a girl’s school

4) the deliberate strike of a civilian drinking water plant (during a deadly water shortage)

I think he’s already committed to the war crime party.

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The order is already a war crime…whether executed or not.

Publicly threatening to bomb civilian power infrastructure as collective punishment violates international humanitarian law. The “dual-use” defense doesn’t apply when Trump explicitly states infrastructure has been “purposefully spared” and frames bombing as economic coercion, not military necessity.

They have been standing ready to execute this for weeks. That readiness answers whether purged military leadership will say no. They haven’t yet.

Under UCMJ Article 92, only lawful orders must be obeyed. “Patently illegal” orders carry no obligation. Bombing civilian grids as coercion is patently illegal. Nuremberg established “just following orders” isn’t a defense when moral choice is possible.

Will they actually refuse?

Behavioral reality: probably not. The Milgram experiments showed 65% of ordinary people will administer what they believe are lethal electric shocks when an authority figure in a lab coat tells them to continue.

Military officers are trained for obedience under pressure. Refusal means court-martial, career destruction, imprisonment.

The Stanford Prison Experiment, the Zimbardo research, decades of behavioral science all confirm the same pattern: humans comply with authority even when orders violate their values, especially when refusal carries severe personal cost and the harm feels abstract or distant.

These aren’t ordinary people, they’re trained officers who’ve sat through law of armed conflict briefings. But they’re also human. And humans obey authority at rates that would horrify us if we weren’t the ones doing it.

Trump’s betting they’ll comply. History suggests he’s right.

Tuesday will show if American military leadership is different, or if we’re just another data point confirming what behavioral science already knows about obedience to authority.

—Johan

Former FSO…and if you’re guessing, there is a reason why that says “former”

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